The Water Fuel Cell

[hydrocars]

well, after i posted,,, guess what... i just took the choke and the cell and hooked it straight to the battery. well, turns out all the choke was doing was acting as a resistor,,, thats why it was getting hot....

i measured 4 1/2 volts across the cell with the choke on the dave lawton circuit,, the transistor was cold and the choke was hot. well, i just removed the dave lawton circuit and hooked directly to the battery with the same voltage as with the dave lawton circuit,,, so basicly, it wasn't doing anything...

OH,,, the reason for the choke not being wraped properly,,, well it come from the radio shack transformer, i was wrapping it around a pen with a drill at the time because i didn't want to wast the wire.. turns out i did a experment with it!

("i would really like to know more about crux's setup, the schematic doesn't lable all the needed parts. i really like the gas flow he has, it is a hudge amount he as going there.")

whats wrong with crux's setup if he is using only 3 amps at 96 volts? with that amount of gas on his one cell, it produces more than all six of my cells on a car battery.

[keithturtle]

Nuthin' wrong with tryin' different ways of winding... my winder acts like a three-handed counting assistant.

I guess there ain't nuthin' wrong with a high voltage setup, if'n there ain't many amps creating heat. But keep in mind the power applied at 96 Volts and 3 amps is exactly the same as 12 volts and 24 amps- it's still 288 watts. And when yer counting electrons, watts is king.

Will these units function more efficiently at higher voltages? I dunno... ain't quantified that one yet. Tim Dolan sez no; yer only wasting energy as heat whenever y'all apply more than 2 volts per cell.

Back to my new mantra... Gas produced fer watts applied. Measure it.

Turtle

[PULSED)ReverseH/Ofuelcell]

Hey Hydro, Keith!

Hydro, your choke needs to be a lot neater, an even coat of wire all the way through. A pen dose not make a good choke core, try if you can to get your hands on a ferrite rod, they work the best when it comes to the 1-50 KHz range.

The frequency that makes the most gas production is roughly (very roughly) 20 KHz; this is out of the audio range. I have bought a new amp meter (volt meter) for 2$! He he good old eBay.

My choke is hot too, it will always get hot, but you can try adding more inductors. You will not get to measure the high voltage spikes, ever, this is because they are very short high voltage spikes, and you need special equipment to measure them. How many amps was your setup drawing?

The wattage is the most important aspect of electricity used, that’s why you need to always compare. The Crux (Aarons) setup is just a basic setup, i.e., frequency generator, chokes and water capacitor. You need a transformer, bigger capacitor, higher frequency and have the Stainless steel electrodes coated in an acrylic to stop any more amp flow but let the voltage field take over.

Good work Keith, I want to hear more on your chokes! I am continuing to have success with my system, hope you all get here soon! Later, pulsed.

[hydrocars]

This is the best cores i've found, all three was from a tv, the smaller one i rewrapped as a choke, these are great cores for transformers! it blows the other metal cores out of the water!!!! i like them....

These cores are attracted by magnets, not sure what they are? but i likem...

[stevie1001]

Pulsed, it is a stimulans to read your input here.
Can you tell us how you hooked up your scope in your setup?

br
Stevie

[PULSED)ReverseH/Ofuelcell]

Thanks you for the positive comments Steve!

I can answer that question, the positive and the negative leads from the O-Scope are connected to the positive and negative out put of the chokes, just between the chokes and the water capacitor with positive and negative on the right terminals.

Hydro, I like your transformers, do they work? Don’t touch the out put because if it dose, it will be {shocking}! I made that mistake and it’s not funny!

I see your choke is bifilar wound, good work, do you know what type of core material it is made of?

I need to buy a proper battery, the car battery charger I use has got I sign wave already so it mucked with the frequency generator, and that’s why I’m not getting the full reaction, I’m still getting a good result, but not the best that I can do. I’m bidding on a 12v 1.3ah Battery in two hours, hope this one will work. Then I can get the full step-charge effect.

I would like to get more information on the transformers and chokes you are using hydro, and I would like to know how your chokes are coming on Steve and every one, together we will get there. Pulsed,

[hydrocars]

welp, the transformer was once wrapped around a tv tube, the backside where it comes into a point. as i said before, all three that you see in the picture, the cores are attracted by magnets.

welp, the dave lawton circuit hooked to the setup i have in the picture produces gas! nothing to jump up and down about, the lawton circuit alone produces more gas without the transformer and chokes.

as far as the wire size, hrmmm, i dont know how big it is, i know it's not 22 or 24 gauge thats to big, 30 would be to small, its inbetween, i can tell you that.

you said not to touch it, hrmmm, stupid me stuck my toungue to it!!!! i think thats why i like thes cores so much, i didn't think it would do anything, the reason for that was because when i help both ends of the coil, it didn't shock me, guess it was dew to to much copper coating, so guess what i did! big mistake, anyways, im ok, and it wasn't at high power...

LESSON LEARNED.....
DONT STICK YOUR TONGUE TO TRANSFORMERS< EVEN IF YOU THINK IT ISN'T WORKING

[stevie1001]

Hydro, I couldnot believe what you wrote.....Sticking your tongue into a tranformer!!!! I hope you dont have a deadwish.
Pulsed warned in his comments many times for shocking effects..
When I was 10, i tryed to remove a fuse while the 230V was stil connected. My hair is still standing straight up....
A small tip: If you want to check if there is some voltage, try to use your Voltmeter, or hold the 2 wires close to each other. You get sparks if there is something on it.

Keep on going to nice work and reporting. I love it!

[hydrocars]

LOL,,,, well,, My toshiba satellites modem was giving me problems,, where it connects is very small pin and one broke so now i'm on the desktop, I WILL NEVER BY A TOSHIBA PRODUCT AGAIN!!! the darn laptop will never see the internet threw the phone line again unless a new mother board is installed,,, i can hear my keys sticking "this thang has sit forever", i hate it!!!! the screen is so bluryy, and when i type sometimes it sounds like dogs barking,,, i feel so out of date!

[PULSED)ReverseH/Ofuelcell]

Hey everyone, I am getting the step-charge effect!

This whole thing i.e. Chokes, Water capacitor, frequency generator etc, work with the same principal as the Tesla coil, only not as big, and the capacitor on the top of the coil in the video is replaced with water electrodes. Also there is not such a high amount of voltage that is arches. The high voltage in the teals coil is generated by the resonant frequency being played (witch explains the frequency generator).

BIG TESLA

Don’t! I repeat DON’T kill your selves, with hydrogen explosions or high voltage shocks! We need your help, read about safety, use rubber gloves and bubblers! Safety comes before running a car on water. I’m not joking, I (you) have to take safety very seriously, I’ve had bad accidents and don’t want any more, I have to quit launching H rockets of my patio 1; for my safety 2: for the wildlife’s safety. Please take all precaution.

More things arriving today, ill keep you all posted, later, Pulsed)!

[PULSED)ReverseH/Ofuelcell]

Hey everyone, I am getting the step-charge effect!

This whole thing i.e. Chokes, Water capacitor, frequency generator etc, work with the same principal as the Tesla coil, only not as big, and the capacitor on the top of the coil in the video is replaced with water electrodes. Also there is not such a high amount of voltage that is arches. The high voltage in the teals coil is generated by the resonant frequency being played (witch explains the frequency generator).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY-AS13fl30

Don’t! I repeat DON’T kill your selves, with hydrogen explosions or high voltage shocks! We need your help, read about safety, use rubber gloves and bubblers! Safety comes before running a car on water. I’m not joking, I (you) have to take safety very seriously, I’ve had bad accidents and don’t want any more, I have to quit launching H rockets of my patio 1; for my safety 2: for the wildlife’s safety. Please take all precaution.

More things arriving today, ill keep you all posted, later, Pulsed)!

[cybertek]

Hi, just curious do any of you have diagrams and plans (step by step for a new-b) on how to make a water fuel cell?

thanks

[hydrocars]

Crux are you sick? we look forward to seeing you again!

[hydrocars]

i can see that you're not sick. i'm glad that you got my warm welcoming pm i sent you about that. the guys as well as me missed you.

[drumstick93]